Centre of gravity

Anything and everything thing here
join a thread/start a thread
User avatar
Big Jim
Posts: 301
Joined: February 25th, 2015, 9:19 am
Location: Wolverhampton

Centre of gravity

Post: # 10403Post Big Jim
December 8th, 2015, 1:25 pm

Hello All
I have bought a caravan chassis to move the camper around , it has a motor mover on the jockey. The camper measures about 7' wide with all the bits sticking out . I have to get it through a gateway 8' wide with tall brick pillars . It sounds easy enough , but I had a right game . The ground is fairly even but even a Little rocking on the suspension eats up the gap .
Anyway where do you think I should drop the camper on the trailer , do you think looks about right ?
Image

User avatar
Toshbins
Posts: 237
Joined: October 22nd, 2015, 12:12 pm
Location: Between Reading and Oxford

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10404Post Toshbins
December 8th, 2015, 5:37 pm

Will your Reich scales measure the weight of each camper leg? Then you could get the centre of gravity just in front of the caravan wheels.

User avatar
zildjian
Site Admin
Posts: 25361
Joined: September 8th, 2013, 3:30 pm

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10405Post zildjian
December 8th, 2015, 7:29 pm

Not allowed them Till Christmas morning (early) :D

In terms of finding C/G its trial and error, I've been moving the camper slightly using an hydraulic lift table

Image

and I had to drop that and shuffle it along a few times to get it right

User avatar
sabconsulting
Posts: 269
Joined: July 27th, 2015, 9:49 pm
Location: High Wycombe

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10412Post sabconsulting
December 8th, 2015, 9:05 pm

The way you have drawn that I would expect it to have too much nose weight. You probably only want around 100kg or less on the nose wheel. Though of course you don't want the nose weight to be too low and to risk it pivoting backwards.

One option - you could probably measure the nose weight with a set of cheap bathroom scales. E.g. you could use the jacks to gently lower the camper on the chassis at different points.

Steve.
Image

User avatar
derestrictor
Posts: 2348
Joined: November 18th, 2014, 7:21 pm
Location: gotham Nottingham

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10413Post derestrictor
December 8th, 2015, 9:06 pm

Only a pity makers don't stamp c of G on the side somewhere really

User avatar
sabconsulting
Posts: 269
Joined: July 27th, 2015, 9:49 pm
Location: High Wycombe

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10414Post sabconsulting
December 8th, 2015, 10:14 pm

derestrictor wrote:Only a pity makers don't stamp c of G on the side somewhere really
Some do:

Image

Steve.
Image

User avatar
Toshbins
Posts: 237
Joined: October 22nd, 2015, 12:12 pm
Location: Between Reading and Oxford

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10415Post Toshbins
December 8th, 2015, 11:38 pm

sabconsulting wrote:The way you have drawn that I would expect it to have too much nose weight. You probably only want around 100kg or less on the nose wheel. Though of course you don't want the nose weight to be too low and to risk it pivoting backwards.

One option - you could probably measure the nose weight with a set of cheap bathroom scales. E.g. you could use the jacks to gently lower the camper on the chassis at different points.
OK. Hitch the caravan chassis to the car. Stand on the A frame and adjust the jockey wheel so it just touches the ground. That's how much weight you want on it. Get the camper loaded on so that you get the jockey wheel just touching the ground the same.

User avatar
rubberrat
Posts: 935
Joined: August 25th, 2014, 7:54 pm
Location: North Norfolk - Near the coast

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10418Post rubberrat
December 9th, 2015, 8:10 am

I move my camper on a four wheel platform trolley with a drawbar that I hook onto my towball.
The sidewards rocking is an issue.. I take things really slow and have all the legs down and just 10mm off the floor so if things go wrong its not going to go far. Slow enough to stop dead if a leg touches down.

In my opinion I'd want the weight biased on the jockey so it doesnt tip back.. its not like you are driving it down the street.
Chevrolet 3.0 LUV Tischer Trail 200

User avatar
rubberrat
Posts: 935
Joined: August 25th, 2014, 7:54 pm
Location: North Norfolk - Near the coast

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10423Post rubberrat
December 9th, 2015, 11:01 am

I just had a thought. As a 20mm movement at ground level may translate to 200mm at the camper top (I can't bring myself o get paper and pen to do the math/trig)
How about laying two builders planks in the area through the pillars to ensure a smooth level transit. Then the risk of clouting the pillars with the side of the camper should be minimised.
Chevrolet 3.0 LUV Tischer Trail 200

User avatar
zildjian
Site Admin
Posts: 25361
Joined: September 8th, 2013, 3:30 pm

Re: Centre of gravity

Post: # 10444Post zildjian
December 10th, 2015, 8:16 am

So what happened Jim, did you try this yet?

In moving ours about on the slightly sloped drive here I keep the camper as low I can & the feet only just above the ground

Post Reply